Musings of a Eurosceptic

Saturday, 31 October 2009




What's it called when someone apparently sabotages their own plans?  Calling it 'electoral suicide' might be too strong and 'shooting oneself in the foot' doesn't quite do it justice.  How about 'beating the electorate over the head with conflicting propositions and then sitting back and blaming everyone else when you can't do what you said you would do but you knew that would be the case all along'?

I think that just about sums up Cameron's position on the EU but perhaps 'sabotage' isn't the word, perhaps it's been the art of politicking from the outset.

politic adj 1 said of a course of action: prudent; wise; shrewd. 2 said of a person: cunning; crafty. 3 old use political. See also body politic. verb (also politick) (politicked, politicking) intrans, derog to indulge in politics, especially to strike political bargains or to gain votes for oneself.

After looking at all the evidence M'Lud I conclude that Mr 'same destination; different path' Cameron has always wanted Britain to be in the EU. Ted Heath begged our way into it (I wish he were alive today.  Still, come the revolution we can always dig him up and hang his bones on a gibbet in Parliament Square), Thatcher discovered what it was all about and stood her ground as best she could, John 'Maastricht' Major didn't.

The Trades Unions wanted to join the EU because they saw the EU as giving them more power -  they imagined an EU-wide strike of, eg, postal workers.  I bet they'll be amongst the first on the bonfire of vanities.

The Labour Party, composed as it is of Fabians, ex-Marxists, ex-Trots, and advocates of Common Purpose & Agenda21, have always been sneaky International Socialist backdoor-dogs.  Some are useful idiots and the majority, Miliband, Brown, Balls, Straw et al, will find they are expendable.

Back to Cameron:  In less than twelve months we have gone from this, which was a holding position, to this, when his prevarications were noted by the msm, and this, which we knew would be the outcome.   In fairness, he has always said, "If the Lisbon Treaty has not been ratified by all 27 countries by the time there is a Conservative government, we will hold a referendum."  When pushed, the line has always been, "We will not let matters rest there."

There was never any way on God's earth that the Lisbon Treaty would not be fully ratified by all twenty-seven countries if/when the Conservatives formed a government next May and Cameron knew it, even as he wrote to Vaclav Klaus asking him to delay the Czech signing (nice try, Dave).

We can expect sudden and major changes in our Constitution to become self-evident - things done behind closed doors will come out into the open and why not?  After all, in the words of EU Leaders, this Treaty is the final treaty and the EU won't need another: it is self-amending.  Cameron's promise to put further treaties to the British people is hollow and he knows it.  He must know it because even I know it.  I think I'm right in saying that after Lisbon there's only one way to go back and that's to repeal the the 1972 European Communities Act.

That's the Party I'll vote for - the one that gives the British people a voice because I'm heartily sick of this damned stuff - look below at the Post of the Week from CharonQC or if you're feeling more poetic, read Philip Pullman's powerful statement on the state of our country.

What will it take?  When will GK Chesterton's Silent People speak?

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GCooper said...

All good points but it isn't, to my mind, so much a question of when we shall speak, as how .

As things stand, most voters are likely to have two choices - the BNP or UKIP. The former is an authoritarian Leftist party, the UKIP a disorganised party of vaguely libertarian mien.

It is not, frankly, a choice likely to result in the overthrow of the Righteous - which is exactly what they are counting on.

On this, and issues like 'global warming' the political classes have us gagged and bound, with a pair of ineffective tokens that they can pretend constitute an alternative.

So the question really is 'how' we can be heard when the system has been so rigged?

31 October 2009 at 21:23
Fausty said...

UKIP is no longer a "disorganised" party, GCooper. It is entering the mainstream.

Farage's astute challenge of Bercow's seat shows that he knows how to poke at the underbelly of the fat-cat mainstream parties.

Read their manifestos and policies.

Will you refrain from voting at the GE, or might you at least give democracy a chance by voting for UKIP, LPUK, EngDem, Jury Team or independent at the GE?

31 October 2009 at 23:27
GCooper said...

Fausty - I've voted UKIP for years.

Sadly, without any expectation of them changing anything.

In the absence of something better, I will no doubt do so again.

And the Righteous will carry on regardless.

We need something better, but I don't know what.

1 November 2009 at 01:27

VOTR, great post - a must-read for the freedom-loving Right who are at odds with Cameron's apostasy (or is it his true colours?) We're getting close now to the GE, and this is too important an issue to be another ranting point. I've treated it as such over at my place.

Fausty - yes, very good points. The mainstream [read 'treasonous federast'] pols need to see how many hate them and why, and it's a damn good idea to concentrate them somewhere.

GCooper. I honestly don't know where else to stick it!
Seriously, the Tory Party's Right are hostages to the Cameronian machine and the party's ancient habits of pre-election discipline.
But we have to hurt them somehow, and UKIP votes for me represent our last best hope - and the Conservative Party's, to provide us with conservative government.
And if it's disorganised - well, if our votes are to count, who better than folk exactly like us to help set that straight?

1 November 2009 at 19:03
GCooper said...

I don't disagree, North Northwester - but I also don't think it's that much of a last best hope.

I can't persuade myself that the UKIP's relative success in the Euro elections changed much in greasy Dave's world and I don't see the party making anything like that impact in the forthcoming GE.

Over at Old Holborn's place, someone has put forth the idea that the country will split, with protest votes in the North going to the BNP and in the South to the UKIP.

It's a point, but I doubt the Righteous would interpret votes for the BNP as representing anything other than votes against immigration (not necessarily a Bad Thing, of course).

A big protest might shake them up, but judging from their reactions to the expenses scandal, I think we are going to need something altogether more traumatic to shift them.

Still, we do what we can, I suppose. It just feels (because it is) insufficient.

And the I Ching of of WV suggests - 'maths'. Ha!

1 November 2009 at 20:36

GCooper: like the Irishman said, I wouldn't start from here!

But here we are and the UKIP:
A) exists already , and
B)is an acceptable place for conservatives to go.
And think of this, that the Liberal Party and its Whig predecessor was half of political life in Britain more or less since the restoration until World War One. Then it became, if not toast, then at least small potatoes and Labour moved in as official opposition.
The Tories might be pragmatic enough to recognise lost votes and realize where they're going, or they may be so federast as to keep their communitaire into political meltdown when they try to manage the New Labour State better than labour did, but without the freedom, prosperity and accumulated gold that Labour squandered.

But when the histories are written and Britain's withdrawal from United Europe comes, then I'd like to think that the Lisbon Constitution was opposed by people identifiable as the patriotic Right, and that the conservatives who opposed the takeover had somewhere unequivocally decent and deeply Right-wing to place their votes - vain though it was.

Got to ask myself the question - what would Churchill say? I think I've figured out the answer.

2 November 2009 at 18:30